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PETER
GABRIEL
A GLOBAL
SOUND PoV
PETER
GABRIEL is the doyen of World Music promoting and WOMAD instigator,
a studio and label owner, a producer, a reluctant and flawed Rock
star and an all round introverted guy. During 3 decades career frequency
of his albums has legnhtened: the 'US' graced our CD lasers in 1992;
aside a two-disc 'Secret World Live' in 1994 and 'Eve', CD-ROM album-game
in 1997, there hasn't been a new album in 8 years!?
'OVO
- The Millennium Show' is a soundtrack album to the multi-media
show staged at the ill-fated celebration of the civilisation at
the London's Millennium Doom, pardon -- Dome. For two years Gabriel
toiled on this project to have only some 20 minutes used in the
show; 'OVO' is the complete score that demanded of him to cast different
singers for character voicing: Elizabeth Fraser (ex-Cocteau Twins),
Paul Buchanan (The Blue Nile) and the legendary Richie Havens; among
the players were his long-term collaborators David Rhodes (guitar),
Tony Levin (bass) and Manu Katche (drums) .
There
has always been some vagueness of character about Gabriel, now more
defined with age; the recent clocking half-a-century is reflected
in his hairs being shorn to a millimetre from the skull and greying
goatee. It all makes him look a tad on the cool professorial side
but he's always been interested in music making rather than ego
and image building; Gabriel's never followed fashions and joined
trends but being an individual not afraid to express it through
his art.
"I
was attracted to the project," Gabriel speaks slowly and fairly
quietly that simply underlines his modesty, "because I've always
been drawn to the multi-media performances. It was an opportunity
to collaborate on a huge project that presented so many challenges.
I worked with Mark Fisher who created stages for 'Zoo TV' (U2),
The Rolling Stones, Pink Floyd, Tina Turner, REM... This was new
to him because it was like a musical with so much more resources."
'OVO'
presents the story of the three time-frames of human evolution through
the lives of three generations of a family, the socio-economical
changes that affect their relationships, causing conflicts and disagreements.
It takes in the dawn of man, industrial revolution (centred in a
Tower Of Babylon-like structure) and the post-cyber existence of
humanity.
"Our
biggest problem was the shortness of it but the requirement was
to tell the whole history of mankind. I don't think that the 20
minutes used for the show make the story comprehensible... The first
part is about nature, 'The Man who loved the Earth' when father
is learning to live in such environment, the second is the time
of his son, 'The Tower that ate People', corresponding with the
industrialisation that divides people. There is love, warfare, starvation,
a bit of a revolution at the end and then, the third act, 'The Nest
that sailed the Sky', the future period, the daughter's time and
she gets together with the member of 'Skypeople' (oppressed classes),
has a baby and it is the beginning of harmony between nature and
technology."
"We
have reached a bio-technological age when we have computers based
on the organic processes now, we have various means to take the
systems of nature and put them into the machines; it is like decentralised
nature and technology but on a much deeper level. And, instead to
have a happy ending, we have a baby, called OVO, ascending into
the sky, little like (cyber) Moses but also referencing the 'Star-child'
from '2001' film, floating into the unknown."
At
times the 'libretto' of 'OVO' reads like a fairy-tale cum pulp science-fiction
crossed with the Biblical snatches but its music is deeply rooted
in reality and reflects many of the different facets that have combined
into the British culture: there are elements of the sonic heritage
from every continent as well as the components of the popular culture,
with only a hint of reggae.
"The
idea was to incorporate everything and your objection about reggae
not being represented well is correct, there is only about 30-second
dub-bass, but it didn't really fit in... I'd have liked to have
had a bit more in because it has had a major influence on the British
culture but there was no way to include everything in equal proportions."
"The
thing to bear in mind is that at the turn of the millennium we were
asking ourselves 'Who are we?' but we weren't who we used to be
within a short space of the calendar change."
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This is not the first time you've wrestled this subject but attempted
to tell the story of the world (in 40 minutes) on the Genesis's
debut album, 'From Genesis To Revelation' (1969)?
"Yeah,
I like nice, small kind of the ideas," Gabriel almost smiles,
" but this time there is a little booklet to go with the package.
Unfortunately the record company couldn't produce it for the commercial
release, it costs too much, but I will make it available on our
Web-site. At least the story is there and to make music more accessible
to the contemporary audience, it is not narrated but rapped. We
got Neneh Cherry and Rasco to do it."
Sledgehammering
the universe
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As a world-renown and respected musician but a tad unorthodox, was
there any opposition to your involvement with this project that
obviously had to appeal to masses?
"The
good thing was that the show wasn't sponsored directly and there
was no interference; the only concern was the title, from the management
who insisted to be called 'The Millennium Show' but we won in the
end and at another point there was a Government minister, called
Lord Faulkner, he had been in a band with the Prime Minister, Tony
Blair, who got worried that the music would be all strange and weird.
So, I had to go to the back of Downing Street for a very strange
A&R meeting, in his political office and the minister had his
staff of all ages come in to listen to it. Fortunately they all
liked it."
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Part three ends on an optimistic note and, based on the past examples,
it is difficult to believe that man would be so kind to share anything
with nature; isn't it more feasible that he would destroy it by
the inherited greed?
"My
hope is that when it comes to our selfish advantage to work with
the nature again we will reconsider it. I think there will be a
lot of reasons for us to do that; on my next record there is a song
called 'Soft City' and it was inspired by a snowstorm in New York.
I've noticed that people behave differently towards each other in
a snowstorm. All the sound gets absorbed and the noise of the city
is muffled, it becomes quieter and people come on top; more are
walking, helping each other... There is a talk of making aeroplanes
with soft-skin, as well as cars and there are already roads where
tarmac has been mixed with rubber to minimise the surface noise...
As I mentioned earlier there is a work on organic-computers and
we will have to embrace nature for our own benefit."
"The
point of the finale was to neither be pessimistic nor happy ending
but leave it a little open, a bit unknown... There is a sense of
hope that if you do your job well as a parent then kids can leave
without problems; you can't control your kids but do your job well
and, if you do that, you become obsolete. The children should have
enough of themselves to carry on on their own."
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Has the competition of 'OVO' liberated you to concentrate on your
next (proper) album?
"Yes,
I've been working on it and one of the songs on 'OVO', 'Father,
Son', was intended for that album but I was talked into including
it here as there is a father-son relationship... My new record is
more personal, more edgier but still song based. It is still a mix
of hand playing and machine-based rhythms... I think of it as a
cinemascope, wide-screen landscape record, big pictures for the
difference from the small ones I had in the past; I don't know how
it will all end up sounding because I haven't made a final selection
from the material I'm considering for it. I think I'll have
it finished by the end of this year and have it out at the beginning
of the next."
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You've become an ambassador for the World Music but, do you remember
your first exposure?
"Yes,
very well; I was getting tired of using the rock rhythms, and you
have to remember that I started out as a drummer, and was looking
for something else and it was Pete Townsand (of the Who) who introduced
me to it when we were doing the first WOMAD charity record to attract
people to the festival... I also love the voices in ethnically diverse
traditions... I love records that contain that quality of otherness,
I love when you get somewhere when you haven't been before, you
don't know... it is a new world and you can go from dreaming of
it... When I make my own music I try to create that."
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It is the nature of artists to be self-doubting; has your self-confidence
increased to the point that you can ignore criticism?
"Well,
I still pay attention to the critiques and enjoy the good ones but
always remember the bad and the personal ones. I'm more comfortable
now, I've turned 50 this year, I'm more comfortable in my own skin
although I still have self-doubts, go through periods when I think
everything I do is crap, then you start working with someone else
and your enthusiasm gets fired up again. But I think I'm happier
not to be liked now; I think a lot of artists are doing this job
because they didn't get enough stroking when they were kids and
need mass approval but when you get older you realise that it might
not be so important."
"I'm
also lucky that I have my independence; a lot of musicians of my
age don't own studio where I put my money rather than in luxuries...
I do have a big house now but sorting out the studio was my priority
because I wouldn't have liked to struggle like some other people
I know; Karl Wallinger (of World Party) had a very tough time getting
a contract and he is an excellent songwriter; he's not a fashionable
one but a classical songwriter, great songs. I have the tools of
production even if the record company decides not to back me up
anymore. If this album works, I mean sells, fine, but if it doesn't,
I'm okay, I don't have to worry about it."
A
man-child of the future
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In the unlikely case that your contractual obligation is terminated,
would you avail yourself of the Internet opportunity?
"Yes
and I've been championing it for a long time; I think it is a marvellous
tool and we should all use it; I have a Download system which allows
artists to be looked after better than in the case of MP3.
That's
for the new artists but for the established ones, look at it like
it's free advertising. The same way I see that Grateful Dead's sales
weren't hurt by encouraging people to bootleg their concerts. But,
for the small, World Music and minority artists, it is very important
to be paid because 60 percent of their income comes
from royalties and 40% from live work. People need to be encouraged
to pay for music but there still will be a music market and it is
not going to be destroyed as the industry fears."
"I
love the idea of Internet because it erases the line between the
First and the Third Worlds and it is very important that there is
no divide. It allows people to communicate with each other and I
think it is in the interest of the rich countries to get the whole
world online because that's their future market. It is pure economic
reason for it but there is also the democratising it brings with
itself and it can be educational."
- After 30 years in the business, is there something you still would
like to do that has escaped you, for whatever reason?
"Yes,
I'd love to work with Tom Waits, I think he is incredible; I had
an opportunity to work with Randy Newman on the song for the pig-movie,
'Babe 2', which was a thrill as I've always considered him to be
one of the greatest songwriters. Then, when DJs come to work in
my studio I find it exciting to watch as they approach things from
a different world; alike African musicians, the dance-people are
not afraid to repeat-repeat-repeat, either a rhythm or a phrase;
it's interesting because there is a different type of tension in
the music and you make small changes while the basis remain constant.
I'm learning about it a lot... And I believe that you learn more
from you mistakes than you do from getting it right. So, my advice
is -- Don't be afraid to make mistakes!"
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You covered 'Suzanne' for the Tribute to Leonard Cohen, 'Tower Of
Song'; do you keep track of your songs being covered? Have you heard
Ozzy Osbourne (with Coal Chamber) doing ' 'Shock The Monkey'?
"Oh
yes, and I was really excited to hear what he had done because it's
so unlikely... I knew he liked 'So' because he told me a couple
times I met him. That version is pretty good but I would have done
things differently; his version is energetic, I have to say. For
me it's fun to hear what people do with my songs and there are few
things that include samples from 'Sledgehammer'; I recently gave
a permission to Tricky to sample 'Big Time' for the 'Mission Impossible
2' film..."
Gabriel
started in the late 1960s with his progressive rock outfit Genesis
but found it restricting and left in 1975, leaving it to Phil Collins
to make them chart-contenders. His first four solo albums were simply
entitled by his name as if they were all parts of the same collection;
he later moved into issuing a number of visually intriguing long-form
videos and has always been renown for performing some of the most
exciting live shows but he is not in a hurry to repeat the experience.
"I
love touring and playing live because it is such a great experience...
When my next studio album comes out I'll be going on the road again."
'OVO'
is another example of Peter Gabriel's global point of view.
Sasha
Stojanovic
Copyright MiM
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